[Tucson] Depot’s hidden treasures   October 30th, 2000

Arizona Daily Star, 30 October 2000.

“Above the false ceilings and behind the hideous wood paneling and fuzzy wallpaper at the former Southern Pacific Railroad depot lies an architectural gem waiting to be restored… The $26 million, 12-year remodeling project began when the city bought the property about two years ago. It has been described as the cornerstone of downtown’s revival. The station is conveniently located across from Hotel Congress on Toole Avenue, and city transportation officials hope a downtown trolley will stop there to let passengers enjoy a complex of shops and restaurants.”

(More on the Tucson depot)

October 20, 2000

Downtown Phoenix Partnership, Inc.
502 E. Monroe, Suite C-1
Phoenix, AZ 85004

To Whom It May Concern:

The Arizona Rail Passenger Association supports the expansion of the Downtown District as described in your Fall 2000 newsletter. The revised boundaries would include all of what is popularly known as “Downtown Phoenix,” for the first time including Union Station on South 4th Avenue.

Union Station will have an increasingly important role in the not-too-distant future. We are working for, and hope you will join us in calling for, Amtrak to return its Sunset Limited and Texas Eagle trains through the Valley; for high speed rail between Phoenix and Tucson; and for commuter trains from Sun City West, Buckeye, Chandler, Gilbert, and Queen Creek to bring employees, students, and shoppers right into the heart of Downtown Phoenix. Your new boundaries clearly indicate that Union Station is convenient to all of Downtown.

The station should be purchased by the City of Phoenix and entirely returned to its original purpose for which it is still well suited – the Gateway to Phoenix.

I am also excited about the District Cooling program, which will extend just one short block away from Union Station. The station, completed in 1923 before the advent of air conditioning, could well benefit from a modern system like this.

I hope you will approve the new boundaries, and I look forward to working with you on making Phoenix Union Station a valuable part of Downtown.

Sincerely,

/s/ William Lindley

Posted in Regional Rail, Stations

by Art Gatts

May, 2000

Reprinted with his permission and edited by William Lindley, October 2006

“I took a trip on a train,” says an old song, and some 200, including Sun Lakes’ Gareth Thorne, did just that on May 5 when the Arizona Rail Passenger Association, the Arizona Department of Transportation, and Amtrak coordinated their efforts for a TALGO run to Tucson. Getting this train to run required hours and hours of meetings, a public hearing for U.S. Congressional approval and agreements from various entities along the way.

An Amtrak TALGO or similar train would be a start to connecting Phoenix with Tucson, Yuma, and Nogales, said Arizona Rail Passenger Association President William Lindley. “We need transportation that moves more people, joining commuter trains and light rail trains in our metropolitan areas, and bringing connections to California and the East.”

“Board the train at Bank One Ballpark,” [now Chase Field - Ed.] said the invitation, “at 10:30am, depart at 10:45.” At 10:45, that first highball sounded and the TALGO was on its way. After a stop in Coolidge, where some passengers left and others boarded, the train pulled into Tucson at 1:35pm.

“Big deal,” many wil say. “We can drive it that fast.”

Right!

If you don’t count the time to get to I-10 from your home, through the city traffic and vehicle accidents and street closures.

But via rail, it is a stress-free, relaxing journey in air-conditioned, spacious comfort with plenty of leg room, plus television, reclining seats with an audio system, plugins for laptop computers, easy access to the bar (called the Bistro Car) and a sumptuous dining car. There is also a baggage car and crew accomodations.

At 2pm, the TAGLO glided out of Tucson.

There is no “turnaround” for the TALGO. With two engines [or one engine and a cab-control car] the train simply runs the other direction. Seats on swivels are just turned around.

Back to BOB at 4:45 in time for a reception at Leinenkugel’s Ballyard Brewery for most, and an Arizona Diamondbacks game for many.

“We were going 79mph after hitting the main line,” said R.C. Noderer, an ARPA member who could answer any question about railroads in general or the TALGO in particular. That’s the “speed limit” because of trac conditions, which could be improved for a Phoenix-Tucson “Corridor Limited.”

On the passenger list was Betsey Bayless, Secretary of State who rode from Phoenix to Coolidge. She experienced the “bad” part of the trip, where tracks are not up to the higher mainline standards, and where some are still of the jointed (not welded) variety. Once the train joined the main line near Picacho Peak, it was smoother and faster, with not a moment of strain.

Train service for Phoenix included the Sunset Limited and Golden State Limited, with trains calling at the downtown Union Station until 1996, when Amtrak pulled the passenger plug. Only freight trains operate between Phoenix and Tucson now, although Amtrak still serves passengers in other parts of the state.

“Passenger trains should return to national prominence” said Lindley. The popularity of the Grand Canyon Railway and the Verde Canyon Railroad proves ARPA’s point.

TALGO trains successfully serve the Cascades corridor in the Pacific Northwest, 466 miles from Oregon to Vancouver, BC, said Gareth Thorne of Sun Lakes, an ARPA director who has ridden trains all over the world. Extensive improvements to track, grade crossing, and safety systems are planned for the Cascades to further increase speed there.

With line improvements, the Phoenix-Tucson run could eventually travel at 125 miles and hour, shortening the 111-mile trip.

“We can fly faster,” say some dissidents. Right; plus spending time getting to the airport (earlier and earlier, they ask), waiting, waiting at the runway, waiting to unload, waiting for baggage. You pass Sky Harbor and see those planes on the TALGO.

The first 45 minutes of our ride was getting through East Valley towns… seeing cars, trucks, and motor homes on the road. Except we had no stop signs.

The train’s usual complement has eight cars for 244 passengers. Some cars hold 36, some 26, and some 17 with space for wheelchairs; there is a lounge/diner, the bistro car, and the engines in front and back. The engines are computer-controlled, no smoke, low emissions.

The efforts of ARPA, Amtrak, and Mary Peters, director of ADOT, were instrumental in today’s run. “We are not just focused on concrete and freeways for transportation,” said Peters. “We need options and support the idea of exploring alternative forms of transportation, including passenger rail service.”

ADOT had trucks and staff stationed as crossing guards for the special train. Without ADOT, the trip would not have been possible.

“This line is going to be a reality,” said Amtrak West President Gil Mallery.

The trip was part of the weekend “Transpo 2000″ event, which ADOT and ARPA sponsored. The event began May 4 when the TALGO brought passengers from Wickenburg to Phoenix [on the BNSF line]. On May 6, twenty five hundred persons came to see displays from transit, government, and private exhibitors at Union Station, and to walk through the TALGO.

“Board!” is still a grand sound. And the TALGO is a grand, elegant way to travel.

TALGO in Arizona: Photos   May 11th, 2000

  • TALGO at Wickenburg TALGO at Wickenburg Station
  • TALGO at Glendale TALGO at Glendale Station
  • Phoenix Union Station Phoenix Union Station
  • TALGO Train at Phoenix Union Station:
    TALGO train at Phoenix TALGO train at PhoenixTALGO train at Phoenix
  • TALGO Demonstration, Phoenix Union Station Displays at Union Station
  • TALGO at Bank One Ballpark, Phoenix TALGO at Bank One Ballpark [Chase Field], Phoenix
  • TALGO Crossing Tempe Town Lake TALGO Crossing Tempe Town Lake
  • ADOT Director Mary Peters at Coolidge ADOT Director Mary Peters at Coolidge
  • TALGO at TucsonTALGO at Tucson Station

Arizona Daily Star 29 June 1999.

QUOTE: “The City Council yesterday approved a 12-year, $26 million plan to refurbish the Union Pacific [originally Southern Pacific] train depot. But rather than choose between the depot’s original 1907 version or the expanded 1941 configuration, the council unanimously agreed to build something that looks like the original but is as big as the existing structure… The council train depot plan will require tearing down portions of the building, making the project more of a historic re-creation than a restoration.” At least one station track will be reactivated.

Posted in Regional Rail, Stations